[Mp4-tech] [H.264][ControlRate] Anybody knows where to find TMN 5?

[Gary Sullivan]

Alejandro et al,
I notice that you referred to a "b" version of TM 5.  The version that I
originally pointed you to was not the "b" version, but was an earlier
one.  I was just informed that a PDF of a scanned copy of the "b"
version can be found in
http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/1990-1996/H310_H323_Experts_Group/C
ontributions/ 
I still don't know where the number 225 came from.  I see how it could
be referred to as AVC-491, and WG11-N0400 and M457, but none of those
are 225.
Best Regards,
Gary Sullivan
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	From: Alejandro Moya [mailto:almomo1 gmail.com] 
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	To: Gary Sullivan
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	Subject: Re: [Mp4-tech] [H.264][ControlRate] Anybody knows where
to find TMN 5?
	Thank you all. I was talking about TM 5 (I though TMN 5 was the
same thing as I saw some other documents about rate control titled as
TMN 8) and that was the document I was looking for.
	I saw it referred as 225b here (aka TM 4)
http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/MSSG/tm5/Overview.html and in some other ITU-T
document which I don't recall right now. 
	Thank you again, Mr. Sullivan.
	2006/2/15, Gary Sullivan <garysull windows.microsoft.com>: 
		Alejandro et al,
		Are you talking about TMN 5 or TM 5?  Those are two
different things.  I suspect that you're talking about TM 5, which is
the 1993 ITU-T AVC document 491 and (I think) MPEG output document N0400
and perhaps the same thing as MPEG input document M457.  It is a
committee working-practice document, not a formal standard, so it is not
for sale in any official fashion. 
		I don't know why you see it referred to as 225b.  Maybe
that was an earlier version.
		See http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/1993-1996/ 
		Best Regards,
		-Gary Sullivan
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			Subject: [Mp4-tech] [H.264][ControlRate] Anybody
knows where to find TMN 5? 
			Hi!
			I am currently studying some rate control
proposals (such as JVT-D030 and JVT-E069) and both refer to ISO/IEC
JTC1/SC29/WG11/93 - 225b also know as TMN 5; I think it is a rate
control for MPEG-2 but anyway I would read that document before
attempting with the newer ones, so I could learn the basis. 
			Where could I find it? I suppose I will have to
pay for it to ISO but not even in its website I found it...
			THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
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