[M4IF Technotes] Distortion Testing for Encoder
Jeyendran Balakrishnan
jp skystream.com
Wed Aug 14 15:35:37 EDT 2002
Try the JND Toolkit from David Sarnoff labs
(http://www.sarnoff.com/internet_telecom/jndmetrix/index.asp)
available for about US$ 9K, Windows SW, offline analysis.
Or you can get the more pricey Tektronix PQA box (about $30K
I think, but don't hold me to this), which uses the same
Sarnoff code inside, but (I believe) works real-time and
for streaming content, and probably adds other bells
and whistles.
This generally gives some objective measures of video quality,
taking into account the nature of the human psycho-visual system.
You can use this to compare quality of different encoders
on the same input content.
However, to decide if any one encoder is good enough on
an absolute basis is subjective, and generally
addressable only by having a (sufficiently large)
bunch of people look at the reconstructed output and judge
the quality.
-Jeyendran
-----Original Message-----
From: Manu V Batura [mailto:manu.batura patni.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2023 11:24 PM
To: technotes lists.m4if.org
Subject: RE: [M4IF Technotes] Distortion Testing for Encoder
Thanks Rob,
But are there any objective tests for distortion that can be used
for testing which encoders are better. If distortion is the competitive
measure, there
should be distortion thresholds available that may be used to call some
encoders good
and some bad.
Thanks & Regards,
Manu
-----Original Message-----
From: technotes-admin lists.m4if.org
[mailto:technotes-admin lists.m4if.org]On Behalf Of Rob Koenen
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2023 10:54 AM
To: 'manu.batura patni.com'; technotes lists.m4if.org
Subject: RE: [M4IF Technotes] Distortion Testing for Encoder
Indeed, any decoder that produces a valid bistream is compliant
to the standard. There are deliberately no prescribed quality
metrics, nor is there any prescribed algorithm to perform the
encoding.
This means there will be good encoders and bad ones...
Best,
Rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manu V Batura [mailto:manu.batura patni.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2023 20:53
> To: technotes lists.m4if.org
> Subject: [M4IF Technotes] Distortion Testing for Encoder
>
>
> Hi,
>
> As per Part-4 of the standard, it seems that any video
> encoder that can
> generate a compliant bitstream would be
> compliant to the standard. However, is there aso a
> corresponding distortion
> measure that needs to be acheived?
> (something like RMSE etc). If yes, what are the thresholds
> that should be
> used for testing 'acceptable video quality'/'allowable video
> distortion'?
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Manu V Batura
>
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