[M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article - Codecs and Players potential end user perspective

[Rob Koenen]

Enough on WM(8) vs Real One vs QT.
I don't want to lose list members over too many off-topic 
discussions.
Please restrict the discussions to the topic of the list: 
non-technical things that affect the adotpion of MPEG-4.
Interesting though these other discussions may be, there are 
enough lists out there to deal with them.
Thanks much,
Rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Jacklin [mailto:mjacklin   geneva-link.ch]
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2024 19:04
> To: shawn   email.envivio.com
> Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org; 'Kevin Marks'
> Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article -
> Codecs and Players potential end user perspective
> 
> 
> Hi Shawn
> 
> Argh sorry. You asked so now I'm starting to get into my 
> individual user
> preferences and a whole other area than licensing
> 
> I like and enjoy Real One. The video control is better than 
> my integrated XP
> WM8 player (whose media management abilities are nicer) and 
> of course it's
> for ram and rm files. I have as many players as I can find. 
> Can you send me
> yours? I volunteer for beta testing it with Zone Alarm.
> 
> Just personally, I trust QT, I have 5.0 not pro, but maybe I 
> wanted QT 6 Pro
> with MPEG-4. I have not yet heard of any spyware capabilities 
> in QT (yet),
> like the stories you find at www.gibsonresearch.com and 
> elsewhere, nor do I
> think Apple has such motives. I may be wrong, also maybe I'm 
> the only one
> who cares about my video privacy. I don't look forward to bathing in
> advertising and cookies.
> 
> Times I guess I just feel MS has too many customers either to 
> want to spy or
> to sell information on them. But I am often and easily wrong. 
> I look forward
> to dissecting my discuss.lists.mpeg.org corpse tomorrow. 
> (It's now 3.00 am)
> 
> Good night.
> 
> /\/\
> In independent consultant, research mode...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn AMBWANI [mailto:shawn   email.envivio.com]
> Sent: 09 March 2024 03:44
> To: mjacklin   geneva-link.ch
> Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org; 'Kevin Marks'
> Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article
> 
> 
> Martin,
> 
> Why wait for Apple's QT 6 to be released when RealOne and 
> Real 8 for the
> PC now has full ISMA MPEG-4 support as well as several advanced video
> and systems features not available in QT6.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Shawn
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-admin   lists.m4if.org
> > [mailto:discuss-admin   lists.m4if.org] On Behalf Of Martin Jacklin
> > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2024 6:32 PM
> > To: Kevin Marks
> > Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org
> > Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article
> >
> >
> > Jeez I wish I could download QT6. I hear there's a little
> > problem with availability. I was thinking of available
> > codecs, that don't explicitly conform.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Marks [mailto:kmarks   apple.com]
> > > Sent: 09 March 2024 02:49
> > > To: mjacklin   geneva-link.ch
> > > Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org
> > > Subject: Re: [M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 03:35 PM, Martin Jacklin wrote:
> > >
> > > > I might add:
> > > >
> > > > I heard the news that the Advanced Video Coding (AVC)
> > group in DVB
> > > > are talking about integrating JVT, which they call
> > "MPEG-4 v3" into
> > > > "ETSI TR 101 154" - their main MPEG implementation guidelines
> > > > document. This was said by
> > > > Ken McCann of Zetacast (who is the chairman of that
> > group) in Dublin on
> > > > the
> > > > 7th March.
> > > >
> > > > MPEG-4 offers more stable periodic and more massive codec
> > upgrades,
> > > > and stays open and doesn't bundle stuff you don't need,
> > like DRM and
> > > > proprietary codec revision cycles which you will later need to
> > > > follow closely for it to
> > > > work. With MPEG-4 you can take what you want.
> > >
> > > More than what? You didn't say what you are comparing too.
> > >
> > > QT fits your description above better than MPEG4 does at
> > the moment.
> > > QT movies from 10 years ago still play in current QT, but
> > newer codecs
> > > can be added and selectively downloaded. This is all 
> shipping today.
> > >
> > >
> >
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