[M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article - Codecs and Players potential end user perspective

[Shawn AMBWANI]

Martin,
There is no beta.  It is in full release.  You just have to try to open
a .mp4 file with a Real Player for our plug in to be activated.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Jacklin [mailto:mjacklin   geneva-link.ch] 
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2024 7:04 PM
> To: shawn   email.envivio.com
> Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org; 'Kevin Marks'
> Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon 
> article - Codecs and Players potential end user perspective
> 
> 
> Hi Shawn
> 
> Argh sorry. You asked so now I'm starting to get into my 
> individual user preferences and a whole other area than licensing
> 
> I like and enjoy Real One. The video control is better than 
> my integrated XP WM8 player (whose media management abilities 
> are nicer) and of course it's for ram and rm files. I have as 
> many players as I can find. Can you send me yours? I 
> volunteer for beta testing it with Zone Alarm.
> 
> Just personally, I trust QT, I have 5.0 not pro, but maybe I 
> wanted QT 6 Pro with MPEG-4. I have not yet heard of any 
> spyware capabilities in QT (yet), like the stories you find 
> at www.gibsonresearch.com and elsewhere, nor do I think Apple 
> has such motives. I may be wrong, also maybe I'm the only one 
> who cares about my video privacy. I don't look forward to 
> bathing in advertising and cookies.
> 
> Times I guess I just feel MS has too many customers either to 
> want to spy or to sell information on them. But I am often 
> and easily wrong. I look forward to dissecting my 
> discuss.lists.mpeg.org corpse tomorrow. (It's now 3.00 am)
> 
> Good night.
> 
> /\/\
> In independent consultant, research mode...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn AMBWANI [mailto:shawn   email.envivio.com]
> Sent: 09 March 2024 03:44
> To: mjacklin   geneva-link.ch
> Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org; 'Kevin Marks'
> Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article
> 
> 
> Martin,
> 
> Why wait for Apple's QT 6 to be released when RealOne and 
> Real 8 for the PC now has full ISMA MPEG-4 support as well as 
> several advanced video and systems features not available in QT6.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Shawn
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-admin   lists.m4if.org 
> > [mailto:discuss-admin   lists.m4if.org] On Behalf Of Martin Jacklin
> > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2024 6:32 PM
> > To: Kevin Marks
> > Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org
> > Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article
> >
> >
> > Jeez I wish I could download QT6. I hear there's a little 
> problem with 
> > availability. I was thinking of available codecs, that don't 
> > explicitly conform.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Marks [mailto:kmarks   apple.com]
> > > Sent: 09 March 2024 02:49
> > > To: mjacklin   geneva-link.ch
> > > Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org
> > > Subject: Re: [M4IF Discuss] Slashdot discussion of Salon article
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 03:35 PM, Martin Jacklin wrote:
> > >
> > > > I might add:
> > > >
> > > > I heard the news that the Advanced Video Coding (AVC)
> > group in DVB
> > > > are talking about integrating JVT, which they call
> > "MPEG-4 v3" into
> > > > "ETSI TR 101 154" - their main MPEG implementation guidelines 
> > > > document. This was said by Ken McCann of Zetacast (who is the 
> > > > chairman of that
> > group) in Dublin on
> > > > the
> > > > 7th March.
> > > >
> > > > MPEG-4 offers more stable periodic and more massive codec
> > upgrades,
> > > > and stays open and doesn't bundle stuff you don't need,
> > like DRM and
> > > > proprietary codec revision cycles which you will later need to 
> > > > follow closely for it to work. With MPEG-4 you can take 
> what you 
> > > > want.
> > >
> > > More than what? You didn't say what you are comparing too.
> > >
> > > QT fits your description above better than MPEG4 does at
> > the moment.
> > > QT movies from 10 years ago still play in current QT, but
> > newer codecs
> > > can be added and selectively downloaded. This is all 
> shipping today.
> > >
> > >
> >
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